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	<title>Comments on: Quartering &#8211; 5th July 2009</title>
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		<title>By: hd55</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Des, it often takes an observer to point out what should be obvious but isn&#039;t.  Both dogs were tired - it was warm and this exercise was at the end of the session.  You are right about the width of the beat too.  I won&#039;t work in this area again, just hoped that it would remind Grace as to what quartering was all about.  I did the same last year and as soon as we hit heather she was off.  Archie is different though, and I take your point.  He has yet to get on the wide open spaces so may see this narrow quartering as his purpose - I don&#039;t want that at all.  I had them both out in the forest today and I don&#039;t think Archie even considers close working...although I have now found that I can turn him at 200 yards...out of necessity!

Thanks for those comments - very helpful
Howard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Des, it often takes an observer to point out what should be obvious but isn&#8217;t.  Both dogs were tired &#8211; it was warm and this exercise was at the end of the session.  You are right about the width of the beat too.  I won&#8217;t work in this area again, just hoped that it would remind Grace as to what quartering was all about.  I did the same last year and as soon as we hit heather she was off.  Archie is different though, and I take your point.  He has yet to get on the wide open spaces so may see this narrow quartering as his purpose &#8211; I don&#8217;t want that at all.  I had them both out in the forest today and I don&#8217;t think Archie even considers close working&#8230;although I have now found that I can turn him at 200 yards&#8230;out of necessity!</p>
<p>Thanks for those comments &#8211; very helpful<br />
Howard</p>
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		<title>By: glencuanpointers</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both dogs look tired to me but to train quartering in an area like this you wouldn&#039;t want it any other way. I very seldom can manage to get a dog to quarter ground this narrow, in fact even considerably wider than yours, as they tend to get too far ahead. Since you were working on spoilt ground I don&#039;t know that I would insist on the dog completing the cast ( even though eventually I would) when I got a turn around/back cast. If the dogs has turned I would send it out the otherside. Just because it&#039;s such a contrived situation but that comment could be filed under nit picking. Tire them out by all means but DON&#039;T bore them. Don&#039;t forget your own comment misquoted from elsewhere that if you train a dog to quarter in a small field what you get is a dog capable of quartering a small field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both dogs look tired to me but to train quartering in an area like this you wouldn&#8217;t want it any other way. I very seldom can manage to get a dog to quarter ground this narrow, in fact even considerably wider than yours, as they tend to get too far ahead. Since you were working on spoilt ground I don&#8217;t know that I would insist on the dog completing the cast ( even though eventually I would) when I got a turn around/back cast. If the dogs has turned I would send it out the otherside. Just because it&#8217;s such a contrived situation but that comment could be filed under nit picking. Tire them out by all means but DON&#8217;T bore them. Don&#8217;t forget your own comment misquoted from elsewhere that if you train a dog to quarter in a small field what you get is a dog capable of quartering a small field.</p>
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		<title>By: hd55</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was very tired by this point, actually choosing to drop infront of me without command soon after as if to say enough was enough!

I was lucky with the camerawoman...its not often that she chooses to come with me, preferring to make the most of my time training by shopping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was very tired by this point, actually choosing to drop infront of me without command soon after as if to say enough was enough!</p>
<p>I was lucky with the camerawoman&#8230;its not often that she chooses to come with me, preferring to make the most of my time training by shopping.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My compliments to the camerawoman!  Just out of interest, was Archie getting tired? His hind action looked different to Grace&#039;s, or so it seemed and I don&#039;t know if it is caused by different conformation or just being a bit tired....

Hilary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My compliments to the camerawoman!  Just out of interest, was Archie getting tired? His hind action looked different to Grace&#8217;s, or so it seemed and I don&#8217;t know if it is caused by different conformation or just being a bit tired&#8230;.</p>
<p>Hilary</p>
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